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shah hassanさんの投稿:
Well! quite nice discussion on these "Notes". I would like to add my comment, as this forum kept "public" by the msn account holder. I am also returnee from the west and for Nadya H surprise, my wife, who is highly educated and holding a professional career choose to come back from ur life style to the life style of peace which called "Islam" in Arabic language (by the way i m on my way to wear it properly yet) so the man upstairs have very little role in modern day Hijabi women infect mostly its just opposite as u suggested, unless one have a quite strong stereotype prejudice against them . The society i lived and gain first hand experience of the shining life style (which attracting our youth now a days and thats y Sadaf's work is much needed) has its very own dark side too. broken families and teen pregnancies, single parents culture might be very good 4 industries and big corporation's business but for calmness and serenity in life, its not working for sure. huge number of converts to religion n west represent this fact. The reason i m writing here is ur closeness to the ideas and some how feeling sympathise with western ideas of freedom with out questioning them as they r some how divine rules which not to be question. So now u r free to choose the way of life but u r not allowed to wear what ever dress u like (example france) and u r allowed to say what ever u want to say (example salman rushdie) but u don't dare to say any word against (holocaust). its very difficult to swallow this double standard concisely unless ur stomach is immune to digest it . Well on one side u giving me a limited and some how restricted freedom to live a happy life under strict Law consist of Rights & Duties on other hand when y same criteria imply under God's commandments its consider attack on ur "free will" and u wont do any thing which u dont want to (so next time try ur vehicle on wrong side of the road). My question is r u happy to get freedom in a very basic things like ur choice of food, work, sex etc. and can u leave the big question of understanding life or believe to the state to decide?(state=majority rules in democracy, so then Many heads can prove few brains wrong) off course its not whole pic. but still it s part of it, in similar manner when u present "hijab" with the idea of extreme attached with, there the people who choose to believe in supreme being as deity and there fore to obey him by the same free will which u obtained as a human being and exercise it in ur life by ur limited knowledge and by Democratic wisdom of the state. We all r same, as humans we need some restriction or laws to make sure society run smoothly at the same time we need some freedom to choose our life style but strictly under the Law. No matter whatever life style u choose u hv to handing over some of ur "free will" to the state, to the society and specially to God. When v pointing fingers towards some one else actually at the same time we r pointing 3 fingers towards ourselves too. Oh yes the last thing by the way i expect u to run away as the typical flag bearer of so called "fredom" do. any way Take care. :)
3 日前
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H Nadyaさんの投稿:
I have no intention of asking you to stop either. But my intention was to stand up for myself as you stand up for yourself and your beliefs. Ignoring something is worse than harsh words. I addressed you directly because I felt I could. Anyway you take it any way you like.
Also I did expect you to run away :p and you have. Typical.
10 月 23 日
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Farooqi Sadafさんの投稿:
Oh well, I have no hard feelings against you or anyone else, alhamdulillah, for your anger or hate or your glaring at "ninja's". I also have no intention of stopping to write my articles or Facebook updates, except on this exchange here with you (this is my last note in reply to you).
If my writing makes you so angry, then please try to ignore it, and delete me from your Facebook list etc. As for the good teaching work you are doing, I salute it. I will always remember you as a good friend and have good memories of the times we shared. Please forgive me for those harsh memories of mine that you have - you are right about what I used to do back in school. Allah knows I have repented for it (sorry, can't help bringing Him into everything. He is the essence of my whole being). Peace be unto you.
10 月 23 日
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H Nadyaさんの投稿:
It's not just your garb but it's your beliefs. Perhaps you don't think they are extreme. I would say they are non violent but they are still extreme. But then thats my human opinion and I will not back it with references to religion or god to make it irrefutable.
If you feel so secure in your coverings, why do you look at people at all to judge them for their clothing? What was it that I noticed...hmm yeah"ladies in capri's, figure-hugging kameez's and skinny jeans" - your words. Wow you really look at them yourself. Makes you just as sullen and petty as the next person who gives you those looks. I must admit I glared at all the "ninjas" i saw in the streets at one point because their self-righteous piety pissed me off but then I realized I was just as bad as they are so I quit paying attention and I've been healthier since. Fear not, I am not targeting you. I just happened to read those articles and that started a dialogue in my head that I had to voice. All extremist fundamentalist people represent the evil to me. I have to face it everyday. Snide self righteous comments I can endure...but fear of my loved ones exploding? That is unacceptable to me. I teach beautiful young minds and hearts that the world is good and that we are allowed to be who we are and then this evil threatens our very existence. And then I read articles that the great pious muslims are writing and it's all so petty and stupid. Liberals are also human and they also feel fear and pain. Who cares about religion when our very souls are in danger of being consumed with hatred and fear?
10 月 23 日
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Farooqi Sadafさんの投稿:
I am a human. :) Haha!
I think....well, I could be wrong, but.....maybe you read my articles at the wrong time? I do not have any sympathies with the people whom you say are "spreading the evil around us". Do I represent them to you? Because of my garb? I wear it because of my belief in the Quran and Sunnah....and I wear it for very little part of the day. Inside, I wear the usual clothes "normal" people do. I came back from abroad after finding out first-hand the kind of life most immigrants lead there, and after consulting many "normal", non-wierdo, immigrant families settled there since many years (who were thankfully candid in their views). And till today, we (my husband and I) do not regret coming back. Alhamdulillah. And for all its worth, I think Batool is a great name. I was named Sadaf only because it went well with my brother Saad's name! No kidding!
10 月 23 日
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